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Whole Sign vs Placidus: compare your houses
Two chart sites can show the same planets in different houses. Often that’s not a mistake: they’re using different house systems. Enter your recorded birth time to see each planet’s Placidus house and Whole Sign house side by side. Your planets’ signs and degrees, your Ascendant and your Midheaven don’t change between the two. Only the house boundaries do.
Compare your houses
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Worked example: a fictional chart
This is Lunara’s invented sample chart, not your chart or a real person’s: 1 January 1990, 12:00, London, the same fictional chart used in the empty house calculator and the sample reading. Calculated once with the method below.
- Ascendant (angle)
- Aries 24°57′
- Placidus 1st cusp at this degree. Whole Sign 1st house: all of Aries, from 0°.
- Midheaven, MC (angle)
- Capricorn 9°53′
- Placidus 10th cusp at this degree. In Whole Sign it falls in the 10th house.
4 of 10 bodies change house: Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Pluto.
| Body | Sign (same in both) | Placidus | Whole Sign |
|---|---|---|---|
| Sun | Capricorn 10°49′ | 10th | 10th |
| Moon | Pisces 3°16′ | 12th | 12th |
| Mercury | Capricorn 25°40′ | 10th | 10th |
| Venus | Aquarius 6°13′ | 11th | 11th |
| Mars | Sagittarius 10°00′ | 8th | 9thdifferent |
| Jupiter | Cancer 5°09′ | 3rd | 4thdifferent |
| Saturn | Capricorn 15°39′ | 10th | 10th |
| Uranus | Capricorn 5°47′ | 9th | 10thdifferent |
| Neptune | Capricorn 12°02′ | 10th | 10th |
| Pluto | Scorpio 17°06′ | 7th | 8thdifferent |
Where each house starts
| House | Placidus starts at | Whole Sign is |
|---|---|---|
| 1st | Aries 24°57′ | all of Aries |
| 2nd | Gemini 1°32′ | all of Taurus |
| 3rd | Gemini 22°19′ | all of Gemini |
| 4th | Cancer 9°53′ | all of Cancer |
| 5th | Cancer 29°22′ | all of Leo |
| 6th | Leo 28°08′ | all of Virgo |
| 7th | Libra 24°57′ | all of Libra |
| 8th | Sagittarius 1°32′ | all of Scorpio |
| 9th | Sagittarius 22°19′ | all of Sagittarius |
| 10th | Capricorn 9°53′ | all of Capricorn |
| 11th | Capricorn 29°22′ | all of Aquarius |
| 12th | Aquarius 28°08′ | all of Pisces |
The Ascendant here is at about 25° Aries, so the Whole Sign 1st house is all of Aries, from 0°. Take Mars: it stays at about 10° Sagittarius in both systems, but Placidus counts it in the 8th house and Whole Sign in the 9th. Nothing about the planet moved; the house boundary did.
How each system draws the twelve houses
Placidus divides the sky by time: it splits the arcs that points travel above and below the horizon over the day. Its cusps can fall at any degree of a sign, and houses come out different sizes, especially away from the equator. The 1st house cusp is the Ascendant degree and the 10th house cusp is the Midheaven.
Whole Sign gives each house one entire sign. The 1st house is the whole sign your Ascendant is in, from 0° of that sign, even though the Ascendant itself may be at 24°. The next sign is the 2nd house, and so on round the zodiac. That is not the same as Equal House, which measures 30° steps from the Ascendant’s exact degree. In Whole Sign the Midheaven is still a point in the chart; it often falls in the 10th house but can land in the 9th or 11th.
Why a planet can change house
When a Placidus cusp falls partway through a sign, the part of that sign before the cusp belongs to one Placidus house and the rest to the next. In Whole Sign the whole sign is one house. So a planet sitting before a Placidus cusp can be counted one house earlier in Placidus than in Whole Sign, or the other way round. Its sign and degree haven’t moved.
This comparison doesn’t pick a winner. Whole Sign is associated with older Hellenistic practice and is popular again; Placidus is the default on many modern Western chart sites, including Lunara’s. No calculation can show which system is true for you, and choosing the one whose reading you like better isn’t a test of either.
You need a recorded birth time
Both systems start from the Ascendant, which moves through a whole sign in roughly two hours and through about one degree every four minutes. A guessed or rounded time can move every house. That’s why this tool asks for a time from a record and won’t use noon or midnight instead.
If your recorded time falls in an hour that a clock change skipped or repeated, the form can’t tell which moment you mean, so it won’t calculate it. Our guide to daylight saving time and your birth chart explains what to check.
Read more: daylight saving time and your birth chart · why two birth charts don’t match.
Frequently asked questions
- Which house system is correct?
- Neither is proven correct. They are different conventions within astrology. This tool shows both from the same chart so you can see exactly what changes; it doesn’t rank them.
- Do my planet signs change between Whole Sign and Placidus?
- No. Every planet keeps the same sign and degree, and the Ascendant and Midheaven stay the same. Only the house each planet is counted in can change.
- Is Whole Sign the same as Equal House?
- No. Whole Sign starts the 1st house at 0° of the Ascendant’s sign. Equal House starts it at the Ascendant’s exact degree and adds 30° for each house.
- Which system does the paid Lunara reading use?
- Placidus. The optional automated natal reading is written from Lunara’s Placidus chart. It isn’t a Whole Sign reading or a combined reading of both systems.
- Why doesn’t it work for places near the poles?
- Placidus can’t be calculated reliably at latitudes of 66° or more, so this comparison isn’t available there. The tool won’t quietly swap in another system.
Method: Lunara’s central Swiss Ephemeris calculation, tropical zodiac, Placidus houses. Whole Sign houses are then derived from the same chart: house 1 is the whole sign containing the Ascendant, starting at 0° of that sign, and each following sign is the next house. Bodies compared: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Nothing else is recalculated. Text written with AI assistance. House systems are conventions within a symbolic tradition, not measured facts about you.